Vernon Williams

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  WELCOME BLINDBUTNOWISEE !

  by juni in

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  welcome to the forum!

  excellent first "thread" about jws and the use of blood.

  it is amazing isn't it how they put out these "doctrines" and then give the disclaimer, " but do according to your conscience.

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  Welcome and keep posting!

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  Eye Spy Movie Trivia Question

  by VM44 in

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  here is an obscure movie trivia question.

  the eye spy movie.

  does anyone remember a movie that starts by showing two men entering a highly secure document vault in order to request viewing a document.

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  Vernon Williams

  No.

  If you have a "Winnie the Pooh" question, though, I and Levi, our five year old, can help....

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  Which gender has things better, and why?

  by John Doe in

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  The males....cause they get to hang out with the females.....

  My take,

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  Scans of new 'Come Be My Follower' book.

  by nicolaou in

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  why anyone would want to see these i have no idea!.

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  Gag me with a rolled up WT mag....

  Yeah, he is our "model" and we "follow,", but WATCH OUT...don't get close enough to talk to him or form an actual relationship....stay back.....let the annointed cozy up....but you....I mean YOU have a friendship with Jesus????

  Are you whacked?!?!?!

  So saith the GB......

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  I thought they were crazy ...now I understand

  by Mrs Smith in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i could never get my head around the fact that people fall inlove over the net.

  it just seemed impossible to me.

  but now that i have been posting here for a while a totaly understand.

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  Mrs.,

  You REALLY live in South Africa?

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  I've been studying with JW's for a few months..

  by MichaelM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been studying with the jw's for a few months and i've attended a few meetings but things are feeling somewhat strange...i don't quite get the jist of things but i feel that i'm learning more of what the watchtower teachers and less of what the bible actually says.. i never open my bible.. i'm always reading the watchtower pamphlets.

  i really like the people i've met in the congregation and the guy thats been doing the studies with me has been an awesome friend.. .

  but i'm just having some issues.. i mean.. they translated their own bible to suit their own doctrines it seems.

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  Michael,

  No harm meant toward your buddy....he sounds like an ass. He is "bait and switch." The bait is his friendship and the switch is you becomming a JW: would boost his, already, inflated ego a lot...

  You don't need THIS discussion: you need to widen your circle of friends. You need some people to broden your opportunities of relationships. The JWs are the LAST people to do this with: total fakery.

  I would recommend reaching out in your area by getting involved with some "help your neighbor" groups. You seem, in your posts, real sincere and like-able. Reach out to others. Perhaps, you are a bit reserved...shy....

  It would require effort and risk :well worth both for friendships that are built on MUTUAL respect and admiration.

  That is my take.

  Just tell your buddy you want to put your study "on hold." Back off the religious discussions. Reach out in other directions...there are so, so many.

  Spend some time on this board. Continue your spirital Journey, not just with the JWs, but, Christianity generally.

  I'm going to bed.....

  Take care,

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  I've been studying with JW's for a few months..

  by MichaelM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been studying with the jw's for a few months and i've attended a few meetings but things are feeling somewhat strange...i don't quite get the jist of things but i feel that i'm learning more of what the watchtower teachers and less of what the bible actually says.. i never open my bible.. i'm always reading the watchtower pamphlets.

  i really like the people i've met in the congregation and the guy thats been doing the studies with me has been an awesome friend.. .

  but i'm just having some issues.. i mean.. they translated their own bible to suit their own doctrines it seems.

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  Michael,

  So.......this guy has befriended you. That is good. He is a "father" type roll model. Ok....

  Now, we are talking spiritual issues.....

  The JW idea of "truth" will NOT stand in an open debate. Your friend will be proved in error on at least five different points. It is predictive. The JWs are simply wrong. That is that......

  Do you want that to happen? Do you want you buddy's position eviserated? How will that effect your relationship with him?

  Your call....

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  good in jehovah's witnesses

  by John Doe in

  1. jw
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  i thought it might be nice to see some positive things mentioned about jw's.

  now, i know mentioning these things may be hard given the experiences here, but i've yet to find a group of people who don't have something positive about them.

  if there weren't something positive, no one would ever join.

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  Three,

  She is a stealth apostate....will be df'd if she keeps it up.

  I appreciate you kind, considerate feelings toward her attitude and actions.

  Take care...keep posting....

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  I've been studying with JW's for a few months..

  by MichaelM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been studying with the jw's for a few months and i've attended a few meetings but things are feeling somewhat strange...i don't quite get the jist of things but i feel that i'm learning more of what the watchtower teachers and less of what the bible actually says.. i never open my bible.. i'm always reading the watchtower pamphlets.

  i really like the people i've met in the congregation and the guy thats been doing the studies with me has been an awesome friend.. .

  but i'm just having some issues.. i mean.. they translated their own bible to suit their own doctrines it seems.

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  Michael,

  See what you can do to set it up. I can arrange my time to match yours....need a few days to arrange things at work....

  PM me with time and date so I will be sure and get it.

  Also, we will need to talk, first.

  I doubt he will do it. The man sounds like a blow-hard. Time and circumstance will tell.

  Again, make the arrangements and we will see how this "study" goes...not normally for him, no doubt...

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  I've been studying with JW's for a few months..

  by MichaelM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been studying with the jw's for a few months and i've attended a few meetings but things are feeling somewhat strange...i don't quite get the jist of things but i feel that i'm learning more of what the watchtower teachers and less of what the bible actually says.. i never open my bible.. i'm always reading the watchtower pamphlets.

  i really like the people i've met in the congregation and the guy thats been doing the studies with me has been an awesome friend.. .

  but i'm just having some issues.. i mean.. they translated their own bible to suit their own doctrines it seems.

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  Vernon Williams

  Michael,

  Look.....these guys are good at arguement. Better than you. You are not going to "win." Period.

  Ask your conductor this: "I have a new friend that has agreed to discuss a couple of topics by phone. Let us set up a speaker phone and have a discussion with him."

  Say that and see what he says.

  You will have, no doubt, a few volunteers. I would be one.

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